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My experience participating in a public for/against Alberta Independence conversation
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When it comes to politics, my experience with those on the left has never been great. Not long ago, many wanted me dead (literally), and said so, simply because of my political beliefs. Others have ‘unfriended’ me because we disagreed on something. Last year, I even went to an NDP event in hopes of coming away with some understanding of their point of view. While trying to find at least a sliver of common ground to build a bridge upon, the person sitting next to me made it clear the bridge was out.  

‘Should we stay or should we go?’ is a very polarizing question that should be non-partizan. In November a gentleman who feels the same invited me to discuss it at a public forum and it was a lot of fun! And I really mean that. He asked if I would consider doing it again and, of course, I said yes. A semi-retired Unitarian minister who helped with the Forever Canada campaign was willing to represent the ‘stay’ side, and the event was booked.  

With no idea how many would attend, it was hard not to think I could be walking into the Lion’s Den. A lot of prayer went into this event and not just mine. As I walked in the door, nervousness was replaced with peace and some friendly familiar faces. It was a quaint gathering of around 25-30 of us at the Ukrainian Centre on 97st. The speakers would each have thirty minutes to state their case, followed by Q&A with the audience, and five minutes for closing remarks.

If the thoughts and ideologies shared by the Unitarian minister reflect all involved in the Forever Canada campaign, I learned a lot about how they perceive us. It quickly became a left verses right issue, peppered with disparaging remarks about our Premier and Conservatives in general. Sadly, not unexpected.

Though my political leanings are well known, I keep my presentation to facts. Taking the audience on a short journey through our history followed by current headlines, the intention is to help people see where we are and how we got here. Within the headline portion we see that our prisons are filling up with non-Canadians, human trafficking is out of control, and cultural uprisings are a real problem. Very unapologetically, I say to every audience before me that those who come to Canada and then hurt us need to go home. A woman sitting in the front row was visibly troubled during this part of the presentation and I wondered why. From what or whose angle was she seeing this? During the question-and-answer portion I found out.

Filled with emotion and angst toward me, “Do you know how MAGA, ultra-right-wing, racist, Nigel Farag-like you sound telling these people to go home??” She was upset and went on for a few minutes more. Then it was my turn to respond.

Me: “Do you lock your doors?”

Her: “Of course.”

Me: “Would you be upset if someone broke in, wrecked your house, stole from you, and hurt your family?”

Her: “Of course, but we invited these people in to become part of our social fabric and have a better life here. We need to welcome them….” and she continued to expand on that thought for another minute or so.

Me: “Okay. If you invite someone into your home, feed them, give them a place to sleep, shelter, etc., and then they ransack it, hurt your kids, and take advantage of you, you would be alright with that?”

She struggled trying to respond and never did truly answer the question. I was as perplexed with her ideology as she was with mine. What, or where, is the disconnect between us? How can it be that two women who both just want to make the world around us a better place, hold such opposing views?

The following day I received a Facebook message from another attendee who also had a problem with the headlines, particularly the one about human trafficking. She questioned what connection it has to Alberta separatism, except as a racist assumption about immigrants. Now there was a theme. Pointing out just a few of the facts regarding how our federal government manages immigration upset these women to the core. But why? The facts are the facts. How can they be denied? Then the a-ha moment came.

This is ‘white guilt’. There are some who believe that calling out the crimes of those who are not white is wrong. Furthermore, wanting justice for those who were hurt by them makes us racist, misogynist, colonialist, and so on. It is an ideology we have all heard and read about. Here I experienced it in real time.

For the record, Alberta Independence has absolutely nothing to do with race, skin color, or any other identifiable human trait. None of us care about any of that. This movement is about correcting the wrongs that have been done toward all Albertans for generations. Most of whom came as immigrants, many of whom really were discriminated against terribly when they arrived. Many of us are descendants of those immigrants. Yours truly is among them whose paternal side came here, narrowly missing the horrors of Holodomor (how apropos that we were at the Ukrainian Centre).

Standing up for generations of political wrongdoing against Albertans gets us accused of all sorts of things we are nowhere near guilty of. I am also constantly reminded that there will always be those for whom our message will never reach. And that’s okay.

Though I walked in to the Ukrainian Centre that night expecting the worst, I walked away pleasantly surprised. Despite this being an emotional topic, everyone was quite polite, most were attentive, and the passive aggressive jabs sent my way were at a much lower key than anticipated. To the gentleman who hosted it, I cannot commend him enough. In politics, opposites do not attract. Ever. Bringing us together in one room took remarkable courage, and for that I am very grateful.

Though no common ground was ever found that evening, the bridge wasn’t completely out. There was a small speck of agreement between the Unitarian minister and I. We both concur that this referendum really is the only way to ensure all of our voices are heard.

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2)      Within the legislation that governs this petition are rules and processes that have to be followed.  If you do not like some or all of the rules and/or processes, suck it up and respect them anyway.

 

3)      If you have the means to support the drive for signatures, be it financially, with your time, or facilitating a meeting to educate others, please do. To get this across the finish line is truly going to be a team effort.

 

4)      Those for whom our success is akin to nails on a chalk board are going to come out swinging like never before. Also, mainstream media is not our friend. Expect it and ignore it.

 

5)      Lastly, and most importantly, everyone involved in gathering signatures and submitting the petition are your fellow Albertans. They are volunteering and doing their best. Be patient, be kind, and make some new friends.

 

There is a new website that has all the information, along with social media pages to follow. Here is the link Stay Free Alberta: Alberta independence referendum petition and canvasser. Share it far and wide, get to the events, bring a friend, and let’s get the question “Do you agree that Alberta should cease to be a part of Canada to become an independent state?” on a referendum ballot later this year.  

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We have a communication problem. I think I have a solution.

Traveling the province means I get to meet the greatest people. Last week I was in a quaint little town called Delburne that has a restaurant called ‘Bistro’ where you can find the best dry ribs I have ever had. Not only was the hospitality at both the restaurant and the meeting top notch, the folks there taught me my greatest lesson to date. We have a problem that can only be solved by bringing generations together.

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“Look behind you!”

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We know conservatism among the youth is growing. We also know they are warming up to the idea of Alberta independence. Yet, we rarely see our young ones at our meetings. The general consensus is that, for the most part, this generation is found online. However, these ladies taught us that while yes, that is true, most are just scrolling and not really taking information in. Her description sort of reminded me of how we used to scroll through the Sears catalogue.

Exploring it further, I realized there is a gap online that needs filling. Podcasts and short videos about Alberta Independence specific to this generation are not found. I know for a fact that there are some, but obviously they not being seen. This is a problem.

As we continued to listen, we learned about another conundrum, and it is a doozie. While it is no secret post-secondary institutions are very left leaning, we sometimes glaze over how awful it truly is for the scholars in attendance. We heard about a friend of theirs who brought up the idea of Alberta Independence in one of their classes at the UofA. Not only was this student unceremoniously shut down, the class was warned that if anyone brought it up again their marks would be affected. So much for freedom of thought and exploring ideas.

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The younger Millennials, Gen Y’s, and now Z’s are discovering that almost everything they were taught is a lie. Not only was it a lie, they believed it and it got them nowhere. No job. No house. No money to raise a family with. And no real-life experience yet to know how to chart a path forward despite the challenges. Not to mention, unfettered immigration has only exacerbated the problem. It is not good and no wonder they are mad. I am, too.

There is a very strong youth presence in the Alberta independence movement and they have their own reasons for it. It is a grave mistake to think a ‘one size fits all’ message is going to reach them. Our meetings are not their jam. These young men and women know what they want and need and we have an opportunity to bring the generations together by helping them get the independence message to their peers in a way that works for their generation, not ours. So, let’s talk with them, not to them, and find out how.   

 

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Managed decline, central planning, we need out.

The federal government finally put together a budget, if you can call it that. Our Prime Minister warned us we were going to have to ‘make sacrifices’ while the talking heads continue call every aspect of our current economy a ‘crisis’. Sometimes even an ‘unprecedented crisis’. However, despite what they want you to believe, the economic disaster we are in is not a crisis. It is a strategic means to an end called managed decline.

Managed decline was originally a business term used to describe slowing things down in a managed way to mitigate loss and harm while trying to save as much as possible. When it comes to government, the definition is exactly the opposite. Policies are designed and actions taken that will lead to a deterioration of economic and social conditions in order to inflict as much financial pain and social chaos as possible. Slowing productivity to a crawl, increasing taxes, and over-regulating any possible growth and innovation is how it is done.

Sound familiar?  

It began with moving the goal posts for pipeline projects under the guise of environment, social, and governance; ESG for short. On the surface it doesn’t sound so evil, but it was and still is.

‘E’ is all about net-zero, carbon neutral, renewable energy. Bills C-48 and 69 come to mind. Given our provinces global greenhouse gas emissions amount to 0.5%, getting to zero would literally mean shutting Albertans down.  

‘S’ is all about giving someone a job who does not qualify for the job but they check a box (or 2 or 3) and help fill a quota. Throwing meritocracy out the window, these social policies are designed to fit hand in glove with DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion), which not only stalls growth and production, it is an HR nightmare.

‘G’ focuses on executive leadership and basically how the company is structured. What it really means is the CEO and his team had better tow the party line and abide by whatever the government throws their way, or else. In short, via policy and legislation, the government is in charge of all future planning with a little built in self-censoring.

When the government takes over planning to become the ‘central planner’ that is not good and our federal government has embraced it with full force. They decide what comes in, what goes out, what gets built, and what gets shut down. This is why we have seen an exodus of investment dollars. That the federal government does not want another pipeline to the west coast is also not surprising. They bought one and do not want competition. As central planner, there is also a move toward nationalizing everything possible. Today they call it subsidies and capital investment; tomorrow they will call it nationally owned.  

As if that were not enough, the federal government took the added step of flooding us with immigrants and refugees from carefully chosen countries. Some came in dressed as foreign students or temporary foreign workers. Others just came. This week we learned that upon arrival, all claimants have to do is download an app, identify as a refugee, and come on in. Why does this matter? Because our already strained resources, including tax dollars, can not sustain this. Not to mention we do not even know who these people are!   

Managed decline and central planning are the friend of Ottawa and enemy of Alberta. What seems to go unnoticed is how resilient Albertans have been through it all, which is both good and bad. It is good because it confirms our strength and resolve. It is bad because that strength and resolve have worked against us. Our resiliency is causing us to take longer to hit the bottom, making it hard for many to see what is actually happening. 

The federal government is using managed decline to usher in a fascist state. Hence the term ‘nation building’, and that is not good.

Sometime in the Spring, we are going to have an opportunity, very likely our ONLY opportunity, to vote our way out of this.

We can't screw this up.  

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